Greenwin Network Update – 1 November 2010
SureCalls: Telecoms team need till 4th Nov to tweak and deploy.
Telecoms Portal: The functions dependent on the SureCall service will be activated asap after SureCall is deployed.
There are several thousand members actively using the telecoms portal. The feed back is excellent with very few dropped calls or poor voice quality.
As part of a system wide test a small credit of 1 cent was put intio all registered accounts. You can ignore this credit or use it to make a call to a non registered GWN number. (SureCall)
Mobile Services: Telecoms team report that they need until the 10th Nov before they will deploy the 4 mobile platforms via the Mobi Browser.
Stakeholders: We are waiting for the developers to confirm that the new masspay system is finally repaired and working again.
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November 1st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
I’m not sure I fully understand – can someone please throw some light on this?
Is CF saying that Sure Call will be fully functional by 4th Nov or only (asap) after the functions dependent on the Sure Call service are activated?
Are we to assume that the buying credits function will also be working by 4th?
Presumably the new masspay system has to do with the payment of dividends due 2nd Nov?
November 1st, 2010 at 10:17 pm
The way I read this it means that the Telecoms Team still need to “play around” with tweaking and testing until Nov 4th and “soon thereafter” the service will be made available to us, which can be Nov 5th .. or Nov. 6th… or Dec. 24th… “soon thereafter” and “asap” are very gummy terms as they can mean anything and nothing. “It’s all relative”. How then on th eother hand they can already teoo that for the MOBILE Services they will need “only” until Nov. 10th … I have no idea.
And yes… dividend payment tomorrow, Nov. 2nd, I think we can forget… again… but hey… we’re only 5 to 6 weeks late with that… compares with the meanwhile close to 11 meonths for the entire GreenWin matter that is still to be consiered “within the timeframe”…
Sorry for my sarcasm, but I’m really meanwhile losing it here…
November 1st, 2010 at 10:39 pm
let’s see what happens the next day to wish you all much success and good luck for the future only motivation we can survive it all together…
November 1st, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Hopefully the new CEO will run things a lot smoother when he takes over. I can wait until then, but it would seriously fire the lot of them.
November 1st, 2010 at 10:53 pm
hard work … in itself is necessary … to win the battle … much self-motivation and perseverance for us here at the team …
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:43 am
Few weeks ago CF mentioned the name of CEO, GWN during one of the webinar (due to very poor audio only a few people could listen it). I think, he is officially going to take the charge at this time. Presently, CF is one of the Directors having VITO power with him. The new CEO should be from Greenwin Power (the largest stakeholder in GWN) segment which is based in Sweden.
We can expect some good news from him regarding Greenwin Power as fews days ago they were making preparations for its live demonstration in Sweden.
Well guys….let’s think positive…things would change hereafter.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:50 am
See direct quote from GWN news ()1.11.2010:
There are several thousand members actively using the telecoms portal. The feed back is excellent with very few dropped calls or poor voice quality.
Is their any one in GWN, that reads this, that has had a free call for longer than a few seconds?????
I would love to hear from you because none of the folk I speak to have had any such success.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:21 am
Helge,
several thousand of members using the telecoms, is bull. It should read thousands cannot use it yet.
I and everyone I know, who is a GWN stakeholder and subscriber cannot use it yet.
It is again some kind of hopefull fantasy.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Network marketing gives people the core values and gives you the chance to make more of your life
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:48 pm
I signed up for the telcom service but haven’t been able to see how to use the service.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Apparently everyone who’s having problems with the telecoms, which is probably everyone, needs to send in support ticket with username and description of the issue. Support just threatened to cancel my account for requesting testimonials of these thousands that are using the system… theres not even thousands signed up yet.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:53 pm
WARNING… VOIP Over Wireless Mobile Violates Cellular Carrier Data Plans TOS COIP Cellular Over Internet Protocol Dial Tone On Cell Phone Does Not
BEWARE… VOIP over mobile has emerged as a hot new wireless mobile alternative to the traditional cellular carrier services, but before you jump on one of these often times over hyped services, do your due diligence first or you will end up wasting money.
First thing you have to do before being lured into any of these new VOIP over mobile offers is to check with the carrier you will have to use, be it TMobile or AT&T, and once you read their optional data network plans which cost . extra on top of their standard plans, you may be shocked as I was.
Simply put, you cannot use voice, as in VOIP over mobile without violating your carriers TOS agreement, but did any of the companies offering this application bother to tell you that they were promoting this violation? When you research issue as I have, you will learn that Apple has removed their VOIP application due to the exclusive agreement they have with AT&T. And the same application is no longer offered through Google which has an exclusive agreement with TMobile. Did Apple get letter from legal department of AT&T and TMobile?
I ordered service which promoted great savings, yet when I discovered the details after the sales pitch, I would end up paying more, not less as promoted. Simply put, don’t fall for any of these VOIP over mobile offers. Here is why, first, you have to have a GSM smart phone, and most do not. So you have to add in this extra cost, and one such company was selling three year old obsolete flip phone as part of their offer, and sadly, it was pure junk, so beware or you may end up with a flimsy out dated cell phone combined with terrible VOIP application which even if legal did not work as promoted.
Optional data plans are . on top of your standard plan. Unless you live in a hotel or airport where you have access to a WiFi hotspot, you won’t save any money at all. It was very misleading how these VOIP over mobile companies were stating savings of up to 90% and didn’t disclose the fact that was based on using WiFi connection. How many people have access to WiFi given limited 100 ft. range under ideal situations. No one I know, including myself, so in my case, I would be paying more, not less for these VOIP applications for mobile.
If you analyze all these promotions as I have done, none will offer the average mobile customer any savings of significance once you factor in extra cost of smart phone, as well as router many use attached to you computer to access internet as does VOIP for homes or businesses. What you need to research is a new technology called Cellular Over Internet Protocol, or COIP as it is referred to. When combining VOIP-COIP in one unit, you will indeed see great savings as you will be able to call anywhere in the world from anywhere in the world through a dial tone access on any cell phone you own. No GSM smart phone is required, so you can use your existing cell phone regardless of how old it is, and this adds up to a significant savings over all the other offers.
With a dial tone on your cell phone, you dial a local COIP access number which puts you on a private network which is using the internet just like VOIP works for landlines. What is unique with COIP is it does not require optional . cost data network plans, nor do you need to purchase new phone if you don’t have a smart phone already which is most people at last count. The iPhone 3GS was a huge success, but at what cost, several hundred dollars if you had to change carriers and phones as example, not so with VOIP-COIP service option.
International travelers will save the most, often up to 90% if you are comparing to traditional mobile plans with roaming charges which is what I discovered in my comparison. The VOIP over mobile are extremely limited to where they will operate unless you have a WiFi hotspot access point which most will not have. With WiMax expansion, this too holds promise at controlling mobile phone costs, and VOIP-COIP offers an optional dual SIM multi-band phone option if needed for further savings as it offers more access options to their COIP network.
For additional savings, you can now reduce your current cell plan to the under . rate because you will no longer have to have unlimited minute plans, or the usual higher than basic plans most have. With so many options, almost all carriers now offer a friends and family or circle of friends plan where you can add numbers most often called which are then free calls. You program in COIP access number and your basic plan is now an unlimited call, text and data plan for far less than you were paying, so real savings can be achieved with this strategy.
With most people having computers, most owning one or more mobile phones per household, and still half of the homes have landlines in the U.S., imagine replacing all these services with one solution regardless where you are located worldwide? That is what VOIP-COIP technology offers everyone, and combined with their multi tier affiliate and social media platform, this new service is the only one I have researched which offers real verifiable value in the mobile communications industry.
Never fall for the hype as I did a few months back, search out the facts, do your own due diligence and take your time evaluating your calling pattern to fully understand how much money you can save based on your calling patterns, not some hypothetical best case example most of these VOIP over mobile deals are promoting, so beware, don’t get trapped or fooled into any plan unless you fully understand it first.
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:14 pm
WHOOOPPEEE, Clarence. What are they going to do when everyone uses it? It is more illegal to disallow cheaper technology for profit. So they can cancel my contract and I will get another phone. But they will not because they would have to cancel half of their contracts… not likely.
Why is it that some people only focus on the negative and try to sabotage themselves?
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Steven, here’s why I posted the comment. GWN is providing VOIP – COIP as it covers the best of all the features including FreeCall, SureCall, PAN Call and unlimited texting. Sorry if I misled you.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:30 pm
For all this needs clarification, before the panic.
Let’s see if someone has another argument. I have been shocked. And surely there will be more people.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Makarena, why would there be a need to panic?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Clarence
The way that I have understood, much, much limits us.
And very difficult for people to understand.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:00 pm
whether to use the phone must be engineers in telecommunications, government and public enterprises and also depends on the laws of each country and telephone companies.
Here for example the phone is free.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Mine still not working, sent ticket to support , they say it works , well it doesnt, i will be back in a month and see whats news then.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:32 pm
I am amazed!!!!
If Free call works for you ‘rajman’ PLeeeeeee….ssss call me on my registered GWN cell phone number.
I am a paid up member on the 73 Euro package.
My GWN username is ‘BORNFREE’ and my international cell number is 27825540000.
No one in my group of about 1900 people has had any success to call.
Top GWN leaders around the world that I speak to on ‘Skype’ have not been able to use it.
I have spoken for a few seconds with the 0.01 cent that was posted in the back office.
But no more than that. I was not one of the few that spoke on ‘Surecall’ for that short testing period.
Please call me anyone show me that it works (On Freecall)
I look forward to hearing from you in sunny South Africa.
Many thanks.
Helge
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Explanation: is free on a landline for local calls from the same country.
And the weekend is free for mobile phones, provided you call the same company. and even others, but not all.
Other mobile phone companies also have several hours a day that is free.
We also have 3 numbers where you can make free calls from the phone every day.
But do not worry about the Power must be paid, even on Sundays!!!
Spain always different. Sorry.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Hi Helge
As Makarena said, I made several free calls on landlines as well as mobile within the same country and never tried abroad. just now, I tried your number and it says- Not enough Credit. I have your number and I shall try it tomorrow as well.
Here are the details of some of the short calls I made:
bye received from server means server doesn’t allow you to connect
bye received from client means server did allow you to connect
Not enough credit means more than one free call is not allowed
11/2/2010 6:31:19 PM 1 0:0 rajman 27825540000 0 Server, not enough credit
10/30/2010 10:27:43 AM 3 0:6 rajman 917614061015 0 SIP, bye received from client
10/29/2010 12:16:08 PM 4 0:0 rajman 917614007916 0 SIP, cancel received from client
10/27/2010 3:20:03 PM 24 0:22 rajman 919407058167 0.01 SIP, bye received from client
10/27/2010 10:53:03 AM 3 0:16 rajman 917614061015 0 SIP, bye received from client
Regards
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:20 pm
I called one of my registered numbers. It worked, but it wasn’t free. My €0,01 disappeared from the backoffice. So this was Surecall. But why is this a surecall, when the number is registered?
The call length was 9 seconds, so €0,01=9 seconds. I made the call in Hungary. At least it’s cheaper, than the prices, that the service providers offer in Hungary. So I will be very happy if the free calls and everything will work correctly
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:58 pm
think positively http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxWahcXfwCg&feature=player_embedded
November 3rd, 2010 at 7:53 am
CF and the new CEO should get their act together or the “competition” situation will become more and more complicated and “saturated”. In the U.S. a company called “Lightyear Wireless” apparently is ging to go massively into the market, also with a wireless MLM service that pays its users to use Lightyear Wireless. Fortunately for us the service is not €73 (€97) per year, but $59.99 per month and it’s also limited to the territory of USA and Canada, with an additional $9.99 for worldwide 1000 minutes, but still… this might be only a first step.
We HAVE TO GET OUT there into the world and get this baby Rockin anda Rollin, or we will have a harder and harder stand promoting this as people will have signed with other providers already!
Christian Fortune… I hope you read and respect this and get things done… soon! Sonner!! THE SOONEST!!!
November 3rd, 2010 at 7:54 am
@Michael 24. : nice video! VERY nice… good made and very accurate, even that it is a year old alreda and Facebook back ten had “only” 300 million users… LOL
November 3rd, 2010 at 8:55 am
ATTENTION ALL :
It seems to only work with the Mozilla browser.You can goggle search it and download it free from the internet.
It does work and you can download the soft-phone thereafter from your GWN site as well.
Things are looking very, very positive !!
November 3rd, 2010 at 8:59 am
@ rajman: I really value the fact that you have tried to call me.
Try to call me today again, if you can.
I noticed that none of your calls above (@ # 20) lasted long.
22 seconds the longest. Your call then cut off, I think like it did with all of us.
CF, GWN and support are creating the impression that thousands of people are talking for free with unlimited calls.
To the best of my knowledge this is only true for very limited testing.
All that I and most of us are trying to do is understand how it works, when it works etc. so that we can offer and on sell the product to others.
(Without misleading anyone)
You are truly a leader and your explanations are very much appreciated.
Please connect with me on skype (Helprand = username) 4 further discussion.
@ Michael: You are spot on. Let’s stay positive.
( Being real and business like is also ok!!!.) GWN is a business isn’t it ?????
Take care . Thanks. (Lets go big or go home!)
November 3rd, 2010 at 9:46 am
Can anyone try and call me
username:
herbalsense
November 3rd, 2010 at 10:59 am
Hi Guys, got this from support regarding not able to make calls to register mobile phones.GWN Support, Nov 02 14:59 (GMT):
We have just received this info from tech.
SYSTEM UPDATE: The telecoms servers will be updated with a new import / migration of registered mobile numbers. This should solve the the connection issues that some members are having. Please allow up to 48 hours for the work to be completed.
November 3rd, 2010 at 2:28 pm
I sent a support ticket regarding the call connections from the phonebook using the username call feature. I too have had much difficulty with connecting. This is their response. This was replied on Wed. 11/3/10 8:15 AM EST
“Yesterday the telecoms team informed us that they will be importing all the registered numbers again into the system. They say this will solve any lingering non connection issues.
Allow 24 to 48 hours for completion”
November 3rd, 2010 at 2:52 pm
I think this might help. Since we are some of the active members of GW, why don’t you put your GW username here so we can add to each others phone books so that we can test this out and communicate with each other. Some are saying that they are having success, and some are not. I’m one that is not, but I’d like to. My gw username is cthemarketer. My skype is the same so reach out to me and lets see if we can make some things happen. Please add yours!
Also, this is a great video to help in using phonebook http://www.healthybankaccount.com/gwbackoffice1.mp4
November 3rd, 2010 at 4:10 pm
@greenwinjack
I added your username to my phone book , and when dailing the user name , a prompt tells me , the call party is not registered. When dailing my brother , it tells me Call Rejected: Forbidden
November 3rd, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Mine does exactly the same
November 3rd, 2010 at 8:21 pm
At leased you gays can GET IN.
) like Michael said!
@ Chris: WOW! Just want to thank you for sharing your video, now I know what the Telecom-inside looks like! If it sounds like I’m retarded……..no I’m not! I’m a registered telecom user/Stakeholder and haven’t seen the inside of my telecombackoffice, because I cannot log-in!!!!! I’ve send support a ticket (again) and this was the reply:
“You should not need to log-in to the telecoms portal. This is a known error that the tech team is fixing”.
So that’s why I want to thank Chris because how am I suppose to learn and build a down line. I’m beyond frustration and very confused!
Ok enough complaining, positive thinking (again
Username:
Antonette
November 3rd, 2010 at 8:32 pm
OEPS!!!! Sorry
I meant “you guys”.
November 3rd, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Antonette, I share your problem and have done so for several days now. Got the same reply from support. Couldn’t get in to the support site this evening (they may have taken it down?). Guess we’ll just have to be patient for another 24 – 48 hours?
November 4th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
To all. Why wait for GWN. Now even earn money!
Gamezocker is online! You can earn Euros by playing.
http://www.gamezocker.com/gamers/ma/ru/ss/marusskin/enregister.php
November 4th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
GREAT NEWS!!!! I was able to call with the webphone to another user. Call quality was beautiful. We actually had problems with the skype connection so we went to the webphone for better quality. hhahahahaha!!! More importantly I was able to call and receive calls with the desktop softphone. It is sooooo much easier. No logging in to back office and clicking on phone book and hoping to get through. Desktop softphone has online status available, chat, and you just click on a name and it calls. THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD , YIPPPPEEEEEEEE!!!! I will post a video tomorrow on how to do it.
November 4th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
That is indeed excellent news Chris, looks like FINALLY things are really starting to take shape at GWN, I dont have access to Telecoms yet as the login screen prompts for a password when it shouldnt. Hope to hear in an update tonight that Telecoms is a go.
November 4th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Yes, Chris please. Thanks
November 4th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
That’s 100% correct….. Chris and I spoke several times using the softphone.
He called me and I called him. We were not cut of. We are learning together how this thing works for the good of all. He will make a video that shows step 4 step how we spoke. How to download the ‘Softphone” etc.
THINGS ARE LOOKING UP.
November 4th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
The Softphone is up and running? WOW! That is a good sign.
November 4th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Chris/Helge, my Softphone still says, “coming soon.” Is the Softphone up for some and not for others?
November 4th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Yup nothing of mine works, soft phone coming soon and web phone says not enough credit, or call rejected (not allowed)
November 4th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
I wonder why its taken them 4 days to fix a mass pay system when they can still pay out comission fine.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
Chris Weldon, Clarence and all GWN members,
Hey, I just spoke to Helge via Skype. He explained to me how and where to download the soft phone. Thereafter he and I tried calling each other, using the soft phone. It did not work.
That surely does mean, that for some it works and not for others.
We even are in the same country, so different geographical regions don’t play any role.
Keep up your hopes. If his works, mine will and all of GWN members will work as well. Probably tomorrow to next week, sometime soon ??
As they say in SA, vasbyt.
November 4th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
Some good info on Malcolms site in an email that CF sent him. Nothing like a few words about whats going on from the person in charge, to raise ones hopes and spirits. Dont know why he didnt post it as an update. Check it out.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Dear Cdru007,
It would be a good idea for you to quote CF’s comments and/or provide us with Malcolms link so we can view it.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
CDRU007,
sorry , but I have not saved his site address. Could you please post it here. thx
November 4th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Sorry, I’m not familar with his site. Cdru007, what was the news from CF?
November 4th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Dear cdru007. Do you remember what CF’s comments were?
November 5th, 2010 at 12:16 am
Malcolm’s site: http://www.googalit.com/SE/
November 5th, 2010 at 12:21 am
Thanks blaster041…
November 5th, 2010 at 1:02 am
Again, what was CF’s comment on Malcolm’s site?
November 5th, 2010 at 2:27 am
Basically, the mega portal is coming along in a big way and it will contain a section for Green Win power. Green Win power could make its public debut by the spring.. I guess that was the big news.
Still working out bugs with telecoms
Had to put get a new module for the mass pay. Should be ready for next week.
Said just because it seems nothing is happening, A lot is in fact happening behind the scenes. A lot will happen before the end of the year.
Divid. for Oct. was 1.12 Euro cents per PEP
November 5th, 2010 at 4:09 am
Patience, patience, patience….Megal portal will look similar to Yahoo.
November 5th, 2010 at 4:13 am
The big question that no one has an answer to. When is the official launch?
November 5th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Sorry folks should have left the link, but i see you got there eventually:)
November 5th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Hello all. I know I promised a video today by I am having technical difficulties on my end. I know you haven’t heard that before so please bear with me (lol). I was actually playing with the soft phone, and I did something to where it no longer works for me (lol). The webphone still works though. Here is how you can get the softphone and play with it for yourself. Go to your phonebook and call one of your entries there. If you don’t have an entry, go to the little icon at the bottom of the page of your phone book that looks like coins stacked up with a plus (+) sign and click on it and input someone’s information. You can use mine if you like. Chris Clark – gw username – cthemarketer. Then make sure you click the disk to save. Then click on the word “call” next to the username and then another screen will show up. If I’m online, it should ring me, but if not, you should get an audio message. You need to scroll all the way down that page to where you see the message
“Make sure your microphone and speakers are turned on!If the webphone is not displayed properly, download Java from here.or use our softphone.
Click on “Use our softphone” and follow the download prompts to get your softphone.
Then just play with it. What I did, that screwed me up was I logged out of it and then it wouldn’t let me log back in. So once you get in and it says your connected. Don’t log out of it. You can close it down, just don’t log out of it.
I will continue to play with it and see if I can get a video out.
Hope this helps
November 5th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Thanks Chris. Will revisit your procedure once I get access to my Telecome BO. Currently I’m still stuck on a telecom login screen, like so many other affiliates.
TO ALL:
“The functions dependent on the SureCall service will be activated asap after SureCall is deployed.”
Does anyone have any idea what functions they’re talking about that follows AFTER activation of the SureCall service?
November 5th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
There seems to be much focus on the telecom side of Greenwin which is understandable at this point. When the GWN mega portal is launched, telecom will be just one of the services and income generators. The telecom services will likely not be the biggest income generator for us. Remember, there will be over 50 income streams.
November 5th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Clarence, What do you mean?
Remember, there will be over 50 income streams.
November 5th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Flat rate international landline and mobile/cell to mobile/cell calls
Multi-user conferencing upgrades with real time collaboration
Virtual office space upgrades with work together tools
Makarena,
Here are just a few:
Webinar/Presentation space with real time broadcasting
On demand mass broadcasting of video/audio
Live chat room capacity upgrades
Ecommerce rooms upgrades
Multi media livewire upgrades
Advertising on the GWN search engines: contextual ads Advertising across the Internet.
Contextual & banner ads – Advertising on the GWN Portal sites: Prime ads/contextual & banners
Advertising ‘post roll’ video sharing
Audio advertising ‘pre selection’ of radio stations
Featured video listings on multiple sites
Back office featured listings – Market Place income includes:
Featured listing – Highlighted listing – Bold listing – Repeated listing
Product Videos Additional product catalogue listing Sales Commission GWN Auctions income streams include: Featured listing – Highlighted listing – Bold listing – Repeated listings – Additional image uploads
Single auction commission – Fixed auction commission – Dutch auction commission – Lots auction commission
GWN Mega Mall with thousands of products
Special offers from partners’ products/services:
Professional Auto responder
Email upgrades – Additional archive/storage space – File sharing upgrades
Green lotto Towah revenue share + MasterCard
November 5th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
All that I know.
And the SKY is my limit.
November 5th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
SOME EXCITING NEWS! The will be search capability on the mega portal. The new mega portal has a full internet search engine. other searches include video, MP3, Blogs and more.
The search engine includes some clever clustering and sorting of search results into groupings, favorites and visual aids.
The Ad server will allow advertisers to have their ads linked to specific searches, featured results etc.
The search engine may also have a unique branding under license. GWN has the rights on a cartoon character called Cuthbert who is a giant super intelligent caterpillar. The search engine may be branded ”Ask Cuthbert” and will come with visuals and animation.
But this is not final yet.
Cuthbert will also appear in other sections of the mega portal and is in keeping with the GreenWin ethos.
An example will be Cuths’ Blog which takes a highly irreverent look and wrap up of the weekly news.
There are several items that will feature Cuthbert and his family and friends who include Uncle Angus, Cousins Splodge and Founella.
Cuthbert & Co will be an entertaining, interactive experience. Fun, irreverent, clever and thought provoking.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Update in backfoffice.
November 5th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Thanks. Agent007
November 5th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Hi Guys. I have been following this blog for many months now and watching how dates just go buy, Green Win has got a great concept but I know the telecoms industry and what is required to make Voip over mobile work, if they are at the stages I have seen on the updates I am sorry to say you have a long road to go to have a market ready product. I wonder how many of you realise that there is a network marketing company that already has what Green Win is promising amongst many other things, they are at least 1 year ahead of Greenwin from what I can see and are already global, completely out price them on the apps, have been live on Mobile for many months, all comp plans are generally relevative but looks income is far higher and there is residual aswell, you can build in 170 countries and they currently have prescence in over 32 countries in a matter of 6 months since launch, thousands of users and qaulity is better than a cellphone call over 3G , WIFI is brilliant, pretty much all over the world when we have been testing it and using it.
November 6th, 2010 at 1:15 am
Lemme guess… Staunch. I checked it out too. Too expensive, less potential and no free option. I will just wait and see.
November 6th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Stauncher, GWN will have much more than telecom. With the amount of Internet traffic our mega portal will generate, GWN members can charge companies from as little as $30.00 a month or as high as $300.00 + to advertise on our high traffic sites. This is just an example. Just imagine a GWN member having 10 advertisers paying $300 a month. That’s $3,000 a month. With GWN, there will be 50-80 income streams. Telecom is ONLY one income stream.
November 7th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
I must agree Steven, I had a look at Staunch before deciding to go with GWN and wasn’t moved by their offering at all.
@Stauncher, what you say about GWN’s future rate of progress may be valid – who is to say? I personally believe once the groundwork on their telecom system is laid and their 1st launch is done and dusted, the progress thereafter will speed up.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
@ Steven.
1. Regards Staunch being “too expensive”. A GreenWin yearly access for ONE app is 73 odd euro’s (R700), – At an entry level Staunch pack they give you TWO apps for 75$ (R530). So now you can actually give this to someone else and talk to them.
There are two other packs for serious business investors.
“Less potential” Now I believe this to be highly debatable. Will discuss below.
“Free Trial” – Yes Staunch do provide a free trial, the agent is able to manage that easily.
Look so what we have now, Staunch has evolved massively in the space of a few months as gear for global roleout.
Staunch is a LIFESTYLE brand and, as such, will continue to evolve and respond to the changing needs of our members and the broader community. Staunch is constantly evaluating market trends and growth segments to secure global networking rights for products and services that meet our ethos, are cutting edge and deliver great value and personal benefits.
Products:
The current range of Staunch Products covers the following growth sectors:
1.Mobile Internet Calling – Staunch Talk (560 million users already and growing)
Global Roaming numbers: – meaning you will all be receiving new numbers that will work on our server base anywhere in the world, our system will know where you are and connect you to it for best quality calls.
DID numbers – you will be able to acquire a Global number that anyone can call you on from a landline or mobile phone and will divert to your Staunch Talk app meaning no roaming charging and giving you a true Global number that anyone can call you on no matter where you are.
Conference calling: – 3 people in a call and Meet Me facility.
Twin Calling or Call Blasting: – ringing more than 1 number at a time
Call forwarding: if your Staunch Number doesn’t answer the call will be forwarded to your mobile phone
Staunch Talk will continue to push the boundaries for new and improved features to keep us at the cutting edge of the Mobile telephony Industry.Staunch is also heavily into new product development and have new announcements.
We will have a soft phone coming out also at the end of next month, which will be part of our roll out so you will have a skype like system that will run on our dedicated servers so will be alot clearer. We have developed a business system that we are currently testing on ourselves and a couple of other parties over the next month though we need our new infrastructure (which is finished) in place to finish that so the corporate side is part of our feature set roll out and it would probably be released September but that will definitely be coming and we see a big opportunity for all of us. The cost saving of putting a system like ours in an office is staggering. We could put in the applications into a switchboard where they could pass on all incoming calls for free or the cost of the data anywhere in the world. This is a very powerful piece of software and is definitely on the way.
What I am trying to Illustrate here is that Staunch Talk is just the start.
Did I mention that the top Engineer that sets up all of Cisco systems switches Globally is now part of the Staunch team?
Other top growth sectors:
Anti Ageing – Skin Nutrition (Worth $274b by 2013)
Energy Strip – Staunch Blast (Energy Drink Market Worth $12b)
Health and Diabetes – G’Wellness & D’Care ($15b and Growing with Obesity rate)
Natural Hair and Body – Empassion ($6.6b Industry and Growing) One of the founders of Staunch has a family member who does make up for all the top Hollywood stars for the past 15 years, and she has put that expertise into this non toxic range. Cosmetics is the biggest of the lot- Look at Avon, NuSkin.
The Staunch Buyers’ Club – One of the largest ranges of products and services with over 30,000 products available online. Instant Cash Commissions and delivered to your door in 24 hours.
The Buyers club has a Global Debit Master card that is linked with top retailers and merchant partners and anytime you spend on this card a cash back is payed back into the card aswel as a percentage goes upwards into the comp plan. This is massive when you look at what people spend monthly throught their cards, now if they spend it with approved merchants which will some of the top retailers in SA and AUS at the moment, due to logisitcs they will do it country by country. Commission paid daily!
Staunch Money – A global micro banking solution that allows you to deposit, transfer and access funds anywhere in the world. (There is no fraud with Staunch Money… protecting your earnings)
Staunch Agent Lead Generation Business System – Your own viral marketing toolkit with video and email capture functionality. If you see my on my name you will see a version of this.
Staunch Mobi: Now I will spend a bit of time on this because this looks like big point of difference. Fact is not even Richard Bransons bank balance could secure this technology even though he wanted it. Staunch have it with rights globally!
This technology has a unique world first algorithm that can compress large amounts of data over a WAP1 connection. This Mobi app will give any 10 year old WAP1 enabled mobile phone more functionality than a top of the range Smartphone.
This will part of our entry level pack that will a Buyers Club debit card, and is catering for the masses of Africa and Internationally that want to build themselves up in Staunch, give them a business on their phone.
1. Send and receive email over WAP1, over 20mb files.View/ Edit Pdf’s, Word, Excell. Not even a Black Berry can do this!
2.Sell Airtime/Data direct through Staunch Mobi and make commission
3. Cheapest SMS/MMS service gauranteed!
4. All insurances sold through an sms direct to call centre.
5. Sell Electricity and make a comission
6. Accept Credit card payments on your cellphone
7. Purchase Staunch Store Products direct through the app on your phone with ease
8. Sell/Purchase Staunch Buyers Club products (30 000 to choose from of top tier brand names) on your phone. Earn instant cash commissions on any products, and volume into the comp plan!
Amongst other things.
Staunch has a competitive edge with its product range in each of these sizeable global markets. More importantly, each of these sectors is experiencing rapid growth and is forecast to be among the major growth sectors by many market analysts over the next 5 years. At Staunch, we provide you with the products and tools you need to ride the wave of growth in these markets in order to build a successful and sustainable business with rapid growth prospects
Bear in mind Staunch actually has a product, live and usable in 170 Markets, teams expaning in 32 markets all have originated from our SA team. GreenWin has a promise. They are selling the future and alot of people have put significant amounts into GreenWin to fund something they know nothing about. I have said this from Feb already when it was Sqip, though I am sure eventually they will come out with something.
When/If GreenWin launch there mobile platfrom it will come down product comparison, but in the end we all now in NM our main product is the BUSINESS. So then it comes down to who has the strongest potential for long term income. GW sounds like they have some good things instore. But if you the scope of what Staunch has and is finalised is just being integrated it is indeed going to become a heavy weight company.
That is why their is a term called market share which no one company will dominate. GW no doubt will hold their share if they can produce on time and Staunch doesn’t take over before. Hehehe. Over 50 000 Staunch Talk apps have been sold in a few months.
I do take my hats off you to guys for backing a futures company, I did this 2 years back with a company selling a promise and never delivered, I built a big team this company selling the future, never again. I am sure some of you will know about Global Verge.
Now when I look at Sqip, then a change to GreenWin and 2-3 year process with no real product of substance, just promises and missed deadlines, it makes me very weary. I for one have found you lose all credibility promoting something that could/might come.
A number of Red Flags I have with GreenWin at the moment I still have to come to terms with, I do hope these change and especially that product goes live on the 10th for real:
Hide behind conference calls
No direct contact to hold someone accountable
Don’t do what they say
CEO promotes affiliate products, and other systems like TVI which all the top leaders where arrested internationally and was declared illegal.
Fluffy stories with all the great marketing propaganda
Don’t deliver or havn’t yet, still promising
Don’t stick to deadlines
No functional/comparable product yet
Take money from people without giving them a product for months
Take ‘Share’s’ money from people to fund their operation, andthousands paying only on the promise that they will bring something. This raises questions on the health of their backing.
Build databases on the promise of the next big thing, and then approach groups that have products and say we have so many thousands of people, and then announce that to their database this is the next thing they are coming out with
Provide basically share/pep options with no prospectus
Change their name every few years and do a re-launch with the same modus operandi
Backround of owners is sketchy
You may be bombarded by adds
How well will it work? All rather ‘ify’
Now these are merely my observations and opinions. I do hope for all your time and energy and effort that they come off with their mobile apps, I know how tough it can be waiting, and waiting and waiting and well … Waiting some more. Let’s see what Nov the 10th brings.
November 8th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Check the other costs
November 8th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
What costs are those? If you talking about the 120$ monthly activity for agents only to earn comms and points, they have such easy ways for people to make this, a couple of customers using the Debit card will count to your monthly activity and you didn’t even do anything. For a company to stay sustainable long term and for residual to remain steady and attractive and for people to actually do something there has to be an element of ‘rent’, this is after all a business. Not so? Bear in Staunch have built a Network marketing company a few years ago that went to 1million agents, they then listed on the Nasdeq. I like to give the benefit of the doubt they know what they are doing when it comes to comp plans, having also designed them for the industry. Not sure what GW backround has with this.
November 9th, 2010 at 7:36 am
If you are willing to give them the benefit of the doubt maybe you consider extending GWN the same courtesy.
November 9th, 2010 at 8:24 am
@ Stauncher, I admire your effort to try and remain unbiased towards your program that your promoting, but you havnt pulled it off very well. In your list of so called red flags, your stretching it pretty far to make GWN be in as bad a light as possible, you double up on your concerns to make your list look longer, (saying them differently doesnt make them different) and most of your claims have no real basis for concern, merely your entitled opinion. I wish you all the success with your program but your attempt to cause doubt and disharmony with GWN is thinly veiled.
November 9th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Stauncher, bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla.
you will not be with us.respects
SHUTTT.
November 9th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Stauncher, please, no more.
November 9th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
I leave you guys too it. All the best.
November 19th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
@Stauncher
A Nasdeq company: you mean like this?
and this:
Edit:Links romoved
November 19th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Sorry nurk. I had to remove the links. Please read this article http://mygreenwincom.com/archives/437
Places like scam.com will turn anything into a scam. Please don’t always believe what they post until you understand their motives
November 20th, 2010 at 6:04 am
@Steven, this was a simple person match. Staunch and 1Cell, mention a Connolly in both opportunities across the Net. scam.com just references it with bad spelling. Nasdeq lists directors. Facebook matches directores to people linked in Staunch.
I still find it a lil strange you remove Nasdeq reports on the company Stauncher talks about in his upsell. Would you prefer a link to a government body that says it was a pyramid scheme?
December 12th, 2010 at 8:51 am
@ Nurk
You are correct. We did a little investigating before we decided to jump ship to Staunch. (and we didn’t)
They are indeed the same crew from 1Cellnet, the company that was declared a pyramid scheme by an Australian court. There are several people involved, Mark Fowler who states on his own FB page that he is co-owner. Standing beside him in his picture is the former top dog for 1Cellnet, Glenn Connelly. When we went for a presentation to their office (a place with plastic furniture is not a good sign) We met Glenn, who then disappeared from sight when people started to make the connection.
We then contacted several companies who appeared to have connections with them. All except one denied having any connection to them and they stated ‘We terminated our relationship with Staunch pending legal proceedings to recover unpaid debts’
So, lets be clear, they are heavily connected to a convicted pyramid scheme, when pushed they run away. None of their former associates will acknowledge their links except one who cites legal proceedings against them.
And the best part is that all of this information is freely available on the web.
Still, please don’t let all of this, and the easy-fold plastic furniture discourage you from investing in a company that has such a great background and accountable leaders with impeccable histories. (oh wait, they don’t)
January 9th, 2011 at 4:59 am
@windwood on November 5th, 2010 at 2:27 am
On you stated ” A lot will happen before the end of the year.
Divid. for Oct. was 1.12 Euro cents per PEP “.
Did you actually mean you were paid dividends of 1.12 Euro cents per PEP in October 2010?
How can that be if GWN peps are not yet shares?